Forge 2

Daryl Gardiner was the second speaker and he asked the question- whats the point in praying if it won't change anything? He told a story about how while talking to a guy in a bar in America at an airport when they would out he was a minister and they'd talked about all their probs, like gambling and abusive rels etc. they all asked him to pray for them. and he did but it didn't make their probs vanish so why pray?

He went on to talk about how as christians we still doubt. The deciples worship Jesus when he rose from the dead but there was still doubt, the story of those guys (inc. abendigo which is a name I love the sound of!!) who were thrown into the firery fernice said they knew God could save them, but if he did they still would not worship and bow down to a statue. The farther of the boy who had fits when asked by Jesus if he believed his son could be healed said he did, but to help his with his unbelief.

As christians we believe and know that God has the ability to do anything but at the same time we struggle with doubt. We still have weaknesses and struggles and doubts and anyone who doesn't is lieing or deluded. And Jesus knew this about his disciples yet he still send them out to into the world. Which also means we can't sit back and wait till were perfect before going out into the world because Jesus calls us to do so despite our struggles and doubts.

Miricles can and do happen but often they don't and we can't go around saying that if you follow Jesus you're life will suddenly be perfect and all the probs will go away. But we can say you'll become closer to Jesus and he will change us- agian not instantly but over time but nothing about changing the world around us.